The Internet-Connected Home Theater
Dolby Podcast Episode 14, May 10, 2007
Technologies and devices for the Internet-connected home theater components, including Internet radio stations, movie download websites and options, devices to connect your home theater to the Internet so you can listen to music, or watch videos, TV or movies, and a little bit more. Listener, Ryan, asks about sound proofing for a subwoofer.
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Jack Buser: Hello! And welcome to Dolbycast, the insider's guide to entertainment technology from the experts at Dolby Laboratories. I'm Jack Buser.
Craig Eggers: And I'm Craig Eggers.
Jack: And we're here to give you the straight talk on everything you need to please your ears.
Craig: And welcome back to Dolbycast. I'm Craig Eggers, and next to me is Jack Buser.
Jack: Here I am. Episode number 14.
Craig: Lucky number 14.
Jack: Absolutely. We made it through 13.
Craig: Yes we did.
Jack: That was very good.
Craig: Yes we did.
Jack: We had the Little Monster in here talking about cables. That was fun, absolutely.
Craig: Yes we did. That was fun. That was a good time. And Jack, we have more listener mail.
Jack: Yes we do. And thank you, everyone who's been writing in. Mailbox has been blowing up, and we're trying to get to them all. It's great to have all these questions.
Craig: So, this mail comes from Ryan. And Ryan lives in Guh-mailcom.
Jack: Craig, that's Gmail.
Craig: Gmail? Oh. Gmail.com.
Jack: [laughs] You should know that, because you know what today's topic is. It's "The Internet Invades Home Theater."
Craig: Oh!
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: We're off to a great start.
Jack: We're just teasing, all you listeners. He knows what Gmail is. [laughs]
Craig: So anyway... [laughs] So much for a pre-rehearsed joke.
Jack: [laughs] I thought it was funny.
Craig: "I just discovered your podcast by listening to this week's HT Guys podcast. " HT Guys.
Jack: Yes. I love the HT Guys. We were on their podcast. It was a lot of fun. We're actually thinking about having them on this podcast at some point. [See HD Shoptalk with the HT Guys, Part One and Part Two on Dolbycast –Ed.]
Craig: We are planning on having them on, very shortly.
Jack: Yeah, absolutely. And if you haven't checked them out yet, check them out: HTGuys.com. That's HT, as in home theater, Guys.com.
Craig: Coolness. So here we go. "Do you have any advice on creating some kind of stand that can hold a subwoofer and prevent the rumbling [laughs] from moving into adjacent floors, ceilings, and walls?"
Jack: [laughs] Oh, boy.
Craig: "I want to buy a sub. I am a considerate neighbor, and I don't want to draw any complaints."
Jack: [laughs] OK. Well, jeez. This is a hard one, because, well, it's hard to stop bass.
Craig: Kind of hard to contain that sub.
Jack: [laughs] It is hard to contain a sub. I've actually been in this situation several times, myself. I have actually tried many things in order to stop a loud subwoofer from going room to room. [laughs] Or apartment to apartment, as the case may be.
Craig: You've got to change your genre of music. That might be one way...
Jack: Yeah, listening to techno and house music doesn't exactly help the situation, [laughs] with the thump-thump-thump of the sub...
Craig: [mimics bass beat sound]
Jack: But I tell you what, I've been doing a lot of just trial and error in this area, and I can tell you, the one thing that I found that helps just a little bit... And it's not going to solve the problem 100%, because again, once the bass gets out in the air, those air waves are going to hit your walls and they're going to resonate your walls, and then your neighbor's going to hear it. It's just as simple as that.
Craig: Precisely.
Jack: You could try turning the bass down, that helps. But still, you might have some bass...
Craig: But then you lose all the fun.
Jack: Then you lose all the fun, right? So what's the fun? The one thing that I did find, though, especially if you have neighbors living downstairs and your sub's sitting on the floor, is to make sure that your sub is not mechanically coupled to the floor.
And what does “mechanically coupled” mean? Well, obviously, when that sub is rumbling away, it's actually going to shake the box itself. And if the box is just sitting on the floor, it is theoretically possible that the coupling between the box and the floor—the fact that they're actually touching—are going to help those vibrations actually transfer from the wood surrounding the sub to your floor, in a mechanical way, which is much more direct that the sound traveling through the air and then hitting the floor or the walls.
So you might try rubber pegs. I know we use a substance called Neoprene, actually, up in our theater, to kind of build a room within a room. So you might try putting your sub up on, maybe, little rubber stands, especially if you have little triangles or cones that come to a point. That might help. Again, I can't guarantee anything. I've just been doing this stuff trial and error. So hopefully, that works for you. Write us back and let us know.
Craig: Jack, I don't think that's going to work.
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: And my advice to Ryan would be to call a mover... [laughs]
Jack: [laughs] Yeah.
Craig: Negotiate a new lease.
Jack: Yeah, yeah. I've done that myself.
Craig: Buy a condo, whatever.
Jack: That definitely does work. I finally did find an apartment where... [laughs]
Craig: You've been thrown out of a couple apartments, haven't you?
Jack: Well, we won't go there. We won't go there.
Craig: [laughs]
Jack: But listen, where we will go is to a break. And when we come back, we're going to be talking about the Internet and home theater.
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Announcer: You're listening to Dolbycast, with Craig Eggers and Jack Buser. Email dolbycast@dolby.com.
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Craig: And we're back at Dolbycast. And this is a special edition of Dolbycast. You know, traditionally, Jack, we've been talking about home theater in the traditional means and the traditional measure. Home theater being a high-definition video player, introducing high-resolution audio, high-definition display device. But you know, the fact is that home theater is now migrating...
Jack: It's changing so fast, yeah. It's changing so fast.
Craig: Or it's growing. It's changing, yeah. And one of the areas where it's changing is the introduction of technologies from the Internet into the home theater.
Jack: Absolutely. In fact, there's so much content now on the Internet: everything from YouTube to videos that people are downloading off of sites...
Craig: Exactly.
Jack: CinemaNow and Movielink. There's just so much stuff happening.
Craig: And that's becoming part of people's entertainment experience.
Jack: Absolutely. More than I think a lot of folks realize. I mean, just look at your own behavior throughout the day. How often do you jump on the Internet and download maybe a video, or somebody sends you a link to something? And this stuff is really coming into the home theater in a big way. And that's what we're going to be talking about today.
Craig: And there's no reason why it should be relegated only to a PC.
Jack: Absolutely. My very biased belief is that this stuff's great on a PC, but once you get some of the high quality content that's available out there up into your home theater, then it really enhances the experience and really makes it something that's something special.
Craig: So I know you're into music, like me.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: And I know you just purchased a new AV receiver.
Jack: I did.
Craig: The Yamaha RX-V2700.
Jack: It is great.
Craig: Now, this is an interesting receiver. And I should say that there are competitors that have similar products.
Jack: That is true.
Craig: But this particular receiver allows you to go to the Internet with a broadband connection...
Jack: It does.
Craig: And listen to music.
Jack: That's exactly right. It is the coolest thing in the world. You plug an Ethernet jack into the back of this thing, and it automatically detects your Internet settings. And all of a sudden, it gives you a list: "What do you want to listen to? You want to listen to rock? You want to listen to electronica? What do you want to listen to?"
So I like to listen to rock, and it'll show you all these different Internet radio stations. So it directly connects to Internet radio. I've got it set to an input. So I just turn on my receiver. And usually, I have it on the Internet radio input, and all of a sudden, Internet radio just starts playing.
Craig: I'm reminded by Scott, our producer, that I misspoke. It is the RX-V2700, not the RX...
Jack: [laughs] RX!
Craig: Whatever I said.
Jack: It's the RX-V2700. And it is a great piece...
Craig: Sounds like the coolest thing in the world.
Jack: Oh, it's the coolest thing in the world.
Craig: Now, let me ask you some questions. Can I select genres of music from this?
Jack: You can select genre. You can also select location. So I can say, "Give me every Internet radio station in San Francisco. Give me every Internet radio station in London. " Right now, one of my favorite Internet radio stations is actually called DeepMix.ru. And anybody that knows Internet extensions, that's dot-Russia. And it's a radio station out of Moscow.
Craig: Wow. Really?
Jack: Yeah. It's very cool.
Craig: Oh, cool.
Jack: 24/7 techno music. It's great. [laughs]
Craig: So, in terms of a connection, basically, I just connect a broadband connection to the back of the Yamaha?
Jack: And it automatically detects, and you're up and running.
Craig: OK. How much does it cost?
Jack: It's free. It's free.
Craig: What do you mean it's free?
Jack: Yeah, it's free. So all these people out there are running these Internet radio stations, and it's just like buying an FM radio, right? You just turn on your FM tuner, and suddenly you get all these FM stations. Same is true for Internet radio. You just tune into the Internet.
Craig: There's no charge for the interface?
Jack: Nope. Built into the receiver, and off you go.
Craig: Oh, that's very cool.
Jack: It's VERY, very cool.
Craig: That's very, very cool.
Jack: Now, I showed you something cool...
Craig: You sure did.
Jack: Which is a great fit for home theater.
Craig: You sure did.
Jack: Now, tell me a little bit about Pandora.
Craig: I am jazzed about Pandora! Pandora really came from the folks who started the Music Genome Project. And they're basically a bunch of musicians, people who are heavily involved with music and have heavy links with music. They came together and said, "Let's create a music distribution service that's based upon how people listen to music, the types of music that they want to listen to."
Jack: Yes.
Craig: And basically, with Pandora, when you access their website, what you do is you create stations, what they call music stations, based upon your music preference. Now, it's not done by genre, which I kind of expected...
Jack: Right, you would think.
Craig: I kind of expected you'd plug in country or rock or...
Jack: What have you. But you don't.
Craig: Space rock, or whatever.
Jack: You don't, you don't.
Craig: You don't do that. You actually key in your favorite artists.
Jack: It's VERY cool.
Craig: And some of the titles from your favorite artists. And then what happens is, based upon some of the commonalities found in the music that you've selected, they start going out and finding other tunes in their site.
Jack: That's right. So what are some of the kind of things that you tried?
Craig: Well, I got an Eric Clapton site. So I got all the blues...
Jack: Yep. You just type in "Eric Clapton”.
Craig: Typed in "Eric Clapton, " and I got an Eric Clapton tune, and the next thing you know, I got a really cool blues tune from the Allman Brothers band, and other things. I typed in " The Beatles ”. And I got the Beatles, I've got Byrds -type songs that sound like The Beatles...
Jack: Yep. Yep. [laughs]
Craig: I've got Tom Petty that sounds like The Beatles.
Jack: It instantly builds a whole radio station for you.
Craig: It is so very, very cool.
Jack: It is the coolest thing. So right now, Pandora's found at pandora.com. And there is actually a device that you can buy, which I have sitting on my desk at work, which is very cool.
Craig: I am going to take that home with me.
Jack: [laughs] It's from a company called Slim Devices. And it actually allows you to listen to Pandora in a home theater environment.
Craig: And all you need is a broadband connection.
Jack: Yep. Plug it right in the back, and off you go. You're listening to your favorite Pandora stations.
Craig: Right now, it's advertiser supported.
Jack: Yep.
Craig: But what I really like about it is, if there's a song there that I really do like and they're playing it, I can go into their interface and order the song from iTunes.
Jack: It's very cool.
Craig: Or Amazon.
Jack: Or from Amazon, yeah. That's exactly right.
Craig: Very, very cool.
Jack: They do have an audiophile version of the box as well [the Transporter –Ed.]. I don't know if I was thinking that. There was an article online from the Stereophile people.
Craig: That's the one with the very cool DACs in it.
Jack: It's got, yeah, the best DACs in the world, and all these crazy VU meters on the front. Yeah.
Craig: So if you've got $5, 000, well, you can be an audiophile. [ $1,999 as of April 22, 2008 –Ed.]
Jack: [laughs] I don't think it's that expensive, but it's very cool.
Craig: It's very cool to have music on your desktop, and then that can be exported to your home theater system, or however.
Jack: Yes, yes. Please check out Pandora.com. Now, there's one other thing that's red hot on everybody's mind right now, and that is...
Craig: Apple TV.
Jack: That's right. Everybody's talking about Apple TV.
Craig: One of our neighbors here in the Bay Area.
Jack: That's exactly right. Down there in Cupertino, our friends over there at Apple have recently released the Apple TV.
Craig: So Jack, what is a DMA?
Jack: DMA. Well, DMA is sort of a generic term for this type of device, and it's something that you're going to hear tossed around more and more in the home theater industry. And really what it is, it's called a digital media adapter.
Craig: OK.
Jack: And this is a box that goes between your home theater system and your computer. And it allows your home theater system to essentially access all the music and all the video on your computer.
Craig: OK. But you have to send it from your computer to you home theater system as a file? Or how does this work?
Jack: They work in two different ways. It basically will include a GUI, most of the times, “graphical user interface”, meaning you can sit there with a remote control and surf through your music and movies...
Craig: OK.
Jack: And it will either directly surf those music and movies from your PC's hard drive, or, in the case of the Apple TV, it actually syncs.
Craig: So you're talking to your PC through your Apple device?
Jack: Through your Apple device. And in fact, what the Apple TV does is a lot like an iPod. It syncs with your computer. S-Y-N-C, syncs with your computer.
Craig: Not S-I-N-K-S.
Jack: Not S-I-N-K-S.
Craig: It doesn't sink your computer! [laughs]
Jack: It doesn't sink your computer. [laughs] That would be bad. But it syncs with your computer, just like an iPod. You can think of it like an iPod. And it just sits there and allows all those great movies and music that you've downloaded off the iTunes Movie Store to actually playback on your home theater system.
Craig: Now, you said something interesting. We've been saying, "PC, PC, PC." And this is from a company called Apple.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: Which makes Apple computers.
Jack: That is correct. I actually use a Mac at home, myself. So obviously, it's for the PC and the Mac.
Craig: OK.
Jack: And it works great! Real simple to use. It's very, very cool. I actually just watched Cars over the weekend using the device, and it looked and sounded pretty good.
Craig: So download your movies from iMovies, and those are encoded in Dolby Surround.
Jack: Those are Dolby Surround. That's correct. Dolby Surround, as you may know, is a matrix format, so it's storing the surround sound into 2 channels of audio. So you might notice that a lot of these movies that you're downloading only are stereo. Well, really, that stereo has added information that's been matrixed inside of it.
Craig: So it basically takes the 5 channels from the original source...
Jack: Squashes it down to 2.
Craig: And squashes it down into 2 channels for transmission.
Jack: In a way that your home theater, if you press the Pro Logic II button on your home theater, it'll intelligently bring it back out to the original 5.1.
Craig: So if I'm watching a Dolby Surround encoded movie from iMovie...
Jack: From iTunes Movie Store, yeah.
Craig: iTunes Movie Store. What I want to do if I'm connected to my home theater system is to select the PL2...
Jack: Make sure you press the Dolby Pro Logic II button.
Craig: Because we want to unwrap that and decode that signal.
Jack: Yep. Now, one of the things we see, just in terms of Internet movies in general, is, one of the goals, I think, of Dolby here is, we're looking at this exciting new medium of delivering movies over the Internet, and we're asking ourselves, "Well, jeez, why shouldn't this be every bit as good as optical media?"
Craig: "Why shouldn't I have 5 channels that are discrete?"
Jack: Sure. I mean, Dolby Digital, or even Dolby Digital Plus, for Internet movie downloads, I think would be a very, very cool thing. And it's certainly something that I think Dolby is looking at very seriously, looking at this new way of delivering movies and saying, "Hey! This should be every bit as good as a DVD." Or maybe even a high-definition optical disc, at some point. You never know.
Craig: Well, I want to thank you, first of all, for turning me on to the Pandora box.
Jack: Yeah. [laughs]
Craig: It's the coolest thing in the world.
Jack: Absolutely.
Craig: And when you go out of town traveling, make sure you hide your Slim Devices box.
Jack: That's true! [laughs] I'm going to have to hide that.
Craig: You'd better hide that, OK? I can't come to your house and steal your Yamaha yet.
Jack: [laughs] If that thing's sitting on my desk, its days are numbered, huh?
Craig: There you go. So let's take a break, Jack.
Jack: All right. We'll be right back. We'll be talking about more cool devices that are coming into your home theater that are Internet-connected.
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Announcer: Questions for Jack or Craig? Email dolbycast@dolby.com.
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Jack: All right, and we're back. We're talking about the Internet invading the home theater. And I talked a lot about the Apple TV, but there are other digital media adapters out there. I saw you looking on the Internet at another one.
Craig: Yeah, I'm giving serious thought, Jack, to the Netgear EVA8000. I don't know if you've seen this yet.
Jack: No, I haven't. But it's actually surprising to hear you're giving serious thought to a DMA. What's the deal?
Craig: Well, it's very cool. It's like the Apple TV.
Jack: Now, is there a particular thing that you downloaded off the Internet that maybe you want to watch on this Netgear box? What is this?
Craig: Joe Woody McDonald's rap.
Jack: The McDonald's rap! [laughs]
Craig: I encourage everybody to go to YouTube and check out the Joe Woody McDonald's rap. It's the coolest thing in the world.
Jack: I have probably watched you watch that video about 100,000 times. [laughs]
Craig: Over and over again. I've almost got it memorized. And one of these podcasts, I promise I will do it.
Jack: It's a guy rapping into a McDonald's drive-through window about his order.
Craig: Exactly.
Jack: And it is the most hilarious thing.
Craig: The bass line goes [mimics bass beat sound] "Big Mac!"
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: It's very, very cool. So anyway, the cool thing about the Netgear...
Jack: So you've got to get this in your home theater, right?
Craig: I've got to have it in my home theater. If you're going to have Apple TV, I've got to have something similar at least.
Jack: [laughs] So what are you looking at, Craig?
Craig: I've got to keep up with Jack over here, man.
Jack: [laughs] What are you looking at, man?
Craig: My credit card's not going to do well...
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: But the pleasure thing will be great. I'm thinking about this Netgear product because, a) it's got HDMI as well as component video outputs.
Jack: Now, that is cool.
Craig: And it also downloads high-def movies.
Jack: THAT is cool.
Craig: It has the capability to do that.
Jack: That is cool.
Craig: And that's really important to me, is getting really, super high quality picture performance. And the other thing is, the cool thing with the Netgear product is, I can go directly to YouTube...
Jack: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, that's so cool.
Craig: And play content directly from YouTube, as opposed to possibly downloading it into my PC.
Jack: I'm loving YouTube. I don't know about you, but I actually love YouTube.
Craig: It's so cool.
Jack: It's fun. You can just waste hours on that thing.
Craig: And the neat thing is there's a lot of people out there buying camcorders for YouTube.
Jack: Yep.
Craig: I see, some day, YouTube evolving to the point where it has cool video, as well as 5.1 surround sound.
Jack: Wouldn't that be nice? [laughs]
Craig: Because we've got camcorders from Sony and Panasonic out there already doing 5.1.
Jack: Sure, why not? That's true. That is very true, actually.
Craig: Maybe we should talk to those guys, work on it.
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: [laughs]
Jack: We've got another topic here. One thing that I think maybe a lot of our listeners already realize, but maybe some don't, is that actually game consoles, of course, they're all connecting to the Internet now, but they actually make good digital media adapters themselves.
Craig: So the new game consoles actually have hard disk drives with them now, right?
Jack: Exactly. Well, at least the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 both do.
Craig: OK.
Jack: And I've told you about this before, where I have one of those high-definition Sony camcorders, and so I've loaded up my PlayStation 3 with all kinds of videos that I've edited on my Mac in iMovie and just tossed over onto the PlayStation 3.
Craig: Why did you do that?
Jack: Well, I did it just because I wanted those movies on the PlayStation 3 in a way where I could just turn on my home theater system and just instantly play them off the hard drive of the game console. It's very cool.
Craig: Cool. OK.
Jack: The cool thing about the Xbox 360, actually, is 2 things. Number 1, it acts as a digital media adapter to your PC and also your Mac. I found a thing called Connect360 for the Mac that actually allows a Macintosh to talk to an Xbox 360. Now, that's kind of weird, but it works. It works.
Craig: Wow, wow.
Jack: It'll do your videos. It'll do your music. You can actually, from your Xbox 360, surf through your music collection. Very, very cool device. But it also is able to download movies off the Internet, in high-definition.
Craig: Hi-def.
Jack: And 5.1 as well.
Craig: That is cool.
Jack: And thanks to the Dolby Digital capabilities of the Xbox 360...
Craig: Dun da-da da!
Jack: It can connect to your home theater using Dolby Digital.
Craig: So many of the products that we've been talking about today require a broadband connection. And really, if there's a theme or a foundation for everything we've talked about, it's the broadband connection into the home theater.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: Which kind of takes me to next-generation optical players.
Jack: I thought you might bring those...
Craig: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah...
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: Some of the players already on the marketplace already have Ethernet ports on them.
Jack: Yes they do, yes they do.
Craig: I mean, there's lots of opportunities you can use with that port. One of the most critical and, I think, important factors, especially when you're introducing a new format, is the ability for you, when there are upgrades available for your player, to literally have your player go grab that upgrade and install it and have complete, total compatible movie playback as you move forward.
Jack: I saw this on the Toshiba HD-A1 [HD DVD player –Ed.]. When it first came out, it wasn't able to do Dolby TrueHD decoding. And there, after a couple of months of it being out on the market: bop-bop! There's an upgrade available. It connects to the Internet, downloads the new firmware, and suddenly, bam! My player's full 5.1 Dolby TrueHD capable.
Craig: And the cool thing about that is it's instantaneous.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: In the past, you had to yank your player out of the system, right?
Jack: Right.
Craig: Put it in a box, send it off or drive it off somewhere...
Jack: Send it off, yeah.
Craig: Or wait for a CD to come to you. And insert the CD, and then do flash.
Jack: Yeah. This was a matter of minutes. I had the thing up. It did take some time to download the new firmware, but it wasn't too bad. You just let it cook there. Go off, eat some dinner, come back, and it's all ready to go. You've got a whole new player. [laughs] It was very cool.
Craig: Now, in the future, that Ethernet port could be used to bring in alternate audio soundtracks.
Jack: That's right, for both Blu-ray and HD DVD.
Craig: Exactly. And director's commentary.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: These are things that could be streamed in simultaneous with disc playback, or possibly streamed in and stored on a hard disk drive that's part of the player in the future, and then grab it off the hard disk drive.
Jack: You've said it best, I've heard you say it before, is that now, when you buy a movie from the store and you take it home, that disc will never change. But with the new Internet connectivity of both HD DVD and Blu-ray, you will actually have that same disc be upgraded with new features...
Craig: Exactly.
Jack: New bonus material, new commentary, what have you. And it will continue to sort of refresh its value...
Craig: The handshake is continued.
Jack: Exactly.
Craig: In the past, you buy your product, you give your money, and that's it. Now, you buy your product, you give your money, but you still have a relationship with that provider.
Jack: Yep.
Craig: Be it the director, be it the producer, be it the movie studio that wants to make you aware of new titles, et cetera.
Jack: That's right.
Craig: So it's going to be very interesting to see how that evolves, as a communication and entertainment tool, to the home theater.
Jack: That's exactly right. Well, if there's a moral here, the moral is that the Internet has invaded the home theater. It's just great to see all this excellent new technology and great new content now coming into a form where we are able to enjoy it in a true home theater setting.
Craig: And I like the fact that no longer do you just have to watch the networks.
Jack: Yep.
Craig: There's so much cool programming that's being generated and created by people and put up on the web. Now you can integrate that, migrate that into your home theater system and enjoy it there.
Jack: That's exactly right. If anybody out there has any questions about integrating Internet-capable devices into their home theater, or recommendations, please email us at dolbycast@dolby.com.
I'd like to just throw out a couple new products here in these last few minutes that you should just keep an eye out for. The first of which is that TiVo now is supporting Amazon Unbox movie downloads.
Craig: Interesting.
Jack: So you're actually able to watch movies that were downloaded over the Internet via the Amazon Unbox service on your TiVo, which is the coolest thing in the world.
Craig: We should do a podcast in the future about that.
Jack: Absolutely. And let's not forget the Slingbox, if nobody's seen the Slingbox. The ability to actually watch your cable TV on your laptop, on your cell phone.
Craig: Anywhere.
Jack: Absolutely.
Craig: Not in the home, but you could be in your hotel, on the road.
Jack: Exactly right. It's just the coolest thing. You can actually even, with some of the premium models, access your DVR. They're HD-capable. Gosh! These things are very cool. So if you haven't checked out Slingbox, definitely check out Slingbox as well.
Craig: So who are we?
Jack: We are... Dolbycast. And my name is...
Craig: Jack Buser.
Jack: And your name is...
Craig: Um.
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: [laughs]
Jack: Craig Eggers!
Craig: There you go!
Jack: And so, hopefully, we have turned those of you who were not aware of the Internet and home theater on to the idea of Internet and home theater. And those of you that were already familiar, maybe introduced some new devices and new technologies that you weren't aware of.
Craig: Don't forget to send those letters.
Jack: Yes, questions.
Craig: And all those great, positive comments.
Jack: And we will see you next time.
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